5 grams), I made two modifications: Jan 18, 2021 · In all fairness to the TD-165, the TP 16 Mk1 was developed for the TD-125 Mkll. If I don't tighten it all the way, sometimes the right channel comes back. Around the home and in the rubbish bin everyone has plastic that shims can be cut out of. Thread starter juptonstone; Start date Sep 4, 2015; juptonstone Member at Large Sep 4, 2015 #1 In 1883, Herman Thorens founded the company in St Croix, Switzerland. This would be closer to a Loefgren alignment if I'm not wrong, as opposed to the Stevenson-ish alignment they used with the TP16 with a null point right outside the centre label. Moko member Posts: 50 Joined: 11 Oct 2010 21:31 Location: London. Dimensions 18"W x 5"H x 14"D. THORENS TP-16 TONEARM Headshell Complete TD Jul 10, 2020 · Cartridge ideas Thorens TP 16 (first version) DavidTT; Jul 26, 2019; Turntables; Replies 4 Views 232. It has a very good bearing system, with ultra low friction. Thread starter DCH; Start date May 31, 2019; DCH Well-Known Member. Has anyone Sep 3, 2019 · It's been a couple of years but in the process of building/setting up a couple of Thorens turntables with the TP16, I checked a few sites (Vinyl Nirvana is a great one to check for info on Thorens machines) and asked questions here, and took apart two TP16s and rebuilt them. Jan 15, 2022 · Thorens TD147 Antiskate Question. 2 mm male connector pins;- silver plated cartridge wires wrapped in soft silicon sleeves - chrome plated female pins (the internal portion of the pin has undergone gold plating);- top hex screw for accurate zenith Feb 26, 2017 · Hi folks, Having recently bought a Nagaoka MP110 for my Thorens TD160 Mk1 (TP16 arm) I am enjoying the sound, but through a Marantz 2230 and Kef 103. My question is how much better sounding will the 160 be than the 126? And how much of that improved sound will be attributable to the move from the TP16 to the Rega tonearm? Nov 10, 2013 · Actually any of the 2M Ortofon are well suited with this arm. Jul 25, 2022 · Re: Thorens TP-16 Tonearm Post by wantabeach » 26 Jul 2022 03:39 There is simply no contest (IMO) for the value and performance of the Nagaoka MP-110 or step up to the MP-150. I did not receive the spacers as they are talking inside the manual. I know there are tons of people using these things out there on TD 160s and TD 125s among others. May 23, 2023 · The TD-160 came with the TP-16 tonearm and the plug-in, magnesium head shell was a Thorens TP-60. www. The right channel drops out when I tighten the headshell collar fully. They are however very easy to make. Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by troutgulch, Sep 4, 2022. I'm pretty sure that the effective mass of the arm is 7. ie Thorens TD145 with spare TP60 Headshell ADVERTS. It features:- gold plated 1. Great condition, and with some quality servicing, the TT plays really well. Remove Thorens TP-16 arm from TD-125 . 73") Nothing I have on a TP MkV I have a 9" TP 16 MkIV on a TD320 that arrived missing the top bearing and cap I will be try to see if it can be salvaged using some older TP 16s. Please inquire if you're looking for a specific spare part We're also specialized in repairs/rebuilds and modifications of Thorens/SME/Ortofon tone arms. It is much more important that is has a low effective mass, because high mass prevents the stylus from following the imperfections (waro or ripple) of the record as it should do. Feb 26, 2017. Used – Excellent. Feb 28, 2010 · Let me echo the suggestion for double - checking the tracking force with a gauge or balance. Thorens TP16 tone arm lift assemblyI was told it has all the needed parts, but please look for yourself. Which Thorens Tonearm (Tp13 Vs Tp13A Vs Tp16) music box. at/Thorens-TP16-bearing clearance-adjustment. They're easier than most think to disassemble, clean and rebuild. Sounds fantastic. Big issue with SME, for today's cartridges the 3009 II or the newer IV and V models are best. Thanks for any input on this 1. Why the Thorens TD-160 MK II Remains Popular Today. rudi-zampa. I've enjoyed an Ortofon OM cartridge on the 147 using both the 20 and 30 stylus. Feb 8, 2022 · The best and most reliable way to set AS is using the dedicated bias setting tracks of a test record. malden. Nov 23, 2021 · Recently I noticed that the TP63 wand on my TP16 III tonearm had the stock fingerlift which is made of steel and is also magnetic. Other than May 4, 2022 · Grado cartridges will hum on a turntable with an AC motor (Thorens). Fits TD-160, TD-145, TD-165, and TD-125 MKII. Will it be a worthwhile change, is the basik better, worse or the same as the TP-16. After having an SME 3009 III tonearm on various Thorens models, I have re-installed the original TP16 on my TD160 Mk1 and I've fallen in love with it again. AT150 is 1. First of all check the play, in both directions, if there isn`t play leave it untouched. The TD 1601 Turntable uses an automatic arm lift and adds $500 to the manual TD 1600’s $2999/incl. 2 grams? Dec 18, 2015 · The standard TP16 is 228 to 232mm (9") The TP 16 MKIII L and the TP 16 IV L @ effective length of 242. Both Grado cartridges hum on my TD-160. It had mostly good features to it but, unfortunately, it had a bent arm tube on its TP16 tone arm. I have it mounted to the headshell and that is it. Jul 24, 2023 · In 1976 the TD 160 Mk II was introduced and the TD 160 Super arrived in 1982. It came with a Grado Gold, but the Grado is humming with my system, a NAD 1020 pre-amp, NAD 2150 power-amp, and Dynaco A25 speakers. The bearings have no play, the anti skate and VTF are both in good condition and feel just like the unit currently on my table. Nov 24, 2020 · Christmas came early this year. I can't wait to give it a go but I need to adjust a few things. Fabricated from a strong, smooth, polished material making it easy to precisely align the cartridge and stylus on your Thorens TP-63 arm and Nov 22, 2012 · The stock TP-16 mkI geometry of 14. To set the height of the stylus tip. The 160 ii has the TP16 ii arm, the 160 super has the TP16iii arm. For example, the identical TP-16 tonearm and belt-driven synchronous motor used in the Thorens TD-125 mark II are incorporated in the TD-160C. 5g) TP-16 tonearm, running into a Little Bear T11 (EAR834 clone) and an upper-level Pioneer AVR, speakers FR Focal 726. Which is better depends on what cartridge you want to run. It certainly looks the part though, all wiring is in good condition and intact. I thought it sounded pretty good. Aug 26, 2013 · It is essentially a TD-160 Super with the Thorens TP-16 MkIII tonearm installed, the same arm used on all of the upper-echelon factory-arm-equipped Thorens tables in the 1980's. I have some milky-white-plastic cylinders that came with my TD165 years ago, and i know I could use those between the top of the cartridge body and the underside of the May 29, 2008 · Cartridge Choice for Thorens TP16. May 11, 2018 · I have that same 16. I think the next cart I tried was an Audio Technica AT-7V which is a nice sounding cart for that arm. Here's the traditional quality and precision you have come to expect from Thorens, at a moderate price. In addition, it comes complete with a walnut base and dust cover. It is machined from solid aluminum and sand blasted to obtain the final finish. Can't use cartridges that have tapped mounting holes that accept fasteners from above, because the little clip that's integral to the headshell is in the way. t. Thorens TD160 overhang ? ARJohn; Oct 4, 2011; Turntables May 23, 2022 · td160 thorens tonearm tp16 1; 2; Next. This means that the stylus force adjustment, via the dial at the top of the tonearm pivot, is spring - loaded, and adds tracking force as the spring is made more taught when you move the tracking force dial. On a pivoting tonearm, such as the Thorens TP16 in use below, a final VTA setting may be arrived at by raising or lowering the tonearm at it's base mounting. Next Last. Weight 37. 5 lbs. (I blame the cueing lift which jams the arm hard tight against the bearing. The TP-16 tonearm is "dynamically balanced". 5 mm (10. What is the effective mass of my TP 16 mk ii? Is it a good idea to keep using it with my Benz Micro Gullwing SLR which is heavy at 12. The TD 1600 is the latest turntable from the venerable Swiss manu This section contains many NOS spares for Thorens BTD12, TP14, TP16 and TP25 tone arms. 5g include in the calculation the mass of the TP 60 headshell? 2. Oct 25, 2021 · Again, I have a Thorens TD-160 with TP16 MK1 tonearm. Jan 11, 2023 · If you intend to design your house to have a vintage outlook, then the Thorens TD-160 MK II will surely suit you well. Raising the entire tonearm will increase VTA, lowering will decrease VTA. Reproduction without prior permission or for financial gain is strictly prohibited. With the anti-skate set at 0, the tone arm pulls toward the the center of the blank record as expected. D. Thorens TP-60 Headshell for TP-16 TD-160 TD-145 TD-125 MKII TD-165. The TD 1601, featuring the new TP 160 tonearm, represents a consistent evolution of the multi-award-winning TD 1601. Starring: spare tp16mkI as TP11 MKI (I’ve Sep 4, 2015 · Need help rewiring a thorens tp-16 tonearm. Originally $70, now Apr 13, 2008 · Any upgrades for a Thorens TD160 with TP16 Tonearm and Nagatron 185E Cartridge. Jul 21, 2014 · For sale my previous tonearm Thorens TP16mkV L (long version) Removed from my Thorens TD520 due to upgrade Thorens TD520 Manual - 3-Speed Precision Belt-Drive Turntable - Vinyl Engine Includes mounting plate, mounting template, original RCA cables, etc so good fit for DIY purposes. Engineered, manufactured and placed on its top-of-the-line deck during its time (the TD-125 MK II) by a pioneer and leader in the industry, Thorens. Checking The Analogdept. For Everything Record Related. 32 watching. i use a AudioQuest/Jelco PT-6 on my TD150 and a Rega/Moth RB250 rewired with a AI counterweight. 53. Jun 29, 2024 · Schopper Headshell TP 60 Upgrade für Thorens TP11 TP16 Tonarme Kleinanzeigen €130 8% Apr 15, 2024 ADVERTS. Feb 13, 2023 · I recently purchased a nice TD147 with TP16 Mk III arm on StereoNet here in Australia. Aug 11, 2020 · Nagaoka cartridges will be a perfect match for your Thorens TP16 tonearm! The Nagaoka MP-200 is the sweet spot in the lineup. For the first time, a spring-suspended sub-chassis with an inner platter driven by a flat belt was used in a mass-produced unit. This new tonearm used the same gimbal pivot bearing, arm tube and head shell as the TP16 but substituted a weight-on-string style of anti-skate control and also featured a diffe Re: Guide To Rewiring The Thorens Tp16 - Tp11 Tonearm Post by cement_head » 30 Dec 2017 03:02 seafinch wrote: Anyone know if I could use a continuous headshell to phono solution like this Oct 3, 2022 · For many years, the Thorens DT 320 headed my list of most desirable affordable turntables, as it already boasted some audiophile features that would only find their way into modern 'High-End' designs much later. The Thorens TD160 mkIV (TP16 mkIV) is a high-end turntable produced by the Swiss company Thorens. Thorens TP13. Thorens TD 160 Mk II - and the famous Isotrack tonearm---Standard with TP-16 Mk II or Mk III Isotrack tonearm. Alternately I Jul 30, 2010 · They make mounting plates for stock arm board for SME,Linn and Rega arms you will just have to do some drilling. and the vinylengine I'm still not sure what protractor I need. THE MULTI-AWARD-WINNING TD 1601 WITH IMPROVED TONEARM TP 160. In fact it touches. New Thorens TP 16 tonearm compatible shell with Thorens standard connector. rest the pickup cartridge on an even surface and place the template in. The 1601 is identical to the 1600 except for the auto lift function. ubiknik Forum Resident. I have replaced the original wand with an improved Schopper AG TP63 wand that weighs in at 16 grams. Can you find the damaged part? Click above image for full size. Oct 18, 2011 · The MK II also had the TP16 tonearm but the arm had been redesigned since first being used on the earlier TD-160 and was now called the Isotrack TP16 MkII. The Thorens Arc protractor Sep 3, 2019 · I have AT-150E with AT440Mlb stylus on my Thorens TD160 with MK1 TP16. I tried to adjust and set the anti-skate the other day, but think it may be broken. Get the best deals for Thorens Tonearm Tp16 at eBay. Thorens customers intending to buy a new pick-up cartridge often ask us: Will this combination work? Will it sound good? Will I be able to install the cartridge on my own? And our usual, friendly and clear reply is: yes, yes and yes again! Changing the cartridge is not an insurmountable task; it just requires a little care. Feb 3, 2020 · For me as Thorens-newbie I found it was remarkable easy. Jun 1, 2019 · Thorens TP16 overhang question. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. spacers to raise the stylus tip to the Mar 13, 2011 · hi Colver, if your thorens is well set up and all in good order inc the tp16 it should sound very fine , slightly off the pace compared to the true top guns but still able to embarrass many modern TT's , i found that the tp16 on my old td160 worked extremely well with the denon DL103(low output so a mc step up of some sort is needed and worked best when the room was quite warm due to low Jan 12, 2013 · I am a newbie on this forum, and seek some advice on how to set playing weight and anti-skating force on a Thorens TP 16 arm. This doesn't seem right either but every Thorens I've seen was like this. While the TP-16 is a good performing tonearm it has its deficiencies. Fits every model cartridge to your headshell. 7mm. All versions come fitted with the Thorens TP16 tonearm, in one of its implementations, which is already quite decent, but there is ample room for improvement. The Thorens turntables TD 127 and TD 226 were derivatives of the TD 126 for long 12“ tone arms (TD 127) and for mounting two tonearms to the right and -- Above: A Thorens TP16 in complete disassembly, and slightly damaged. May 23, 2022 #1 Hi guys! Feb 19, 2008 · Hello, I recently acquired the Thorens TD320 with TP16 MKIV arm. i have a NAD 3020A amplifier and planning to get the diamond 9. Some of the key features of this turntable include:1. . 2 speakers I find it (compared to an old and now worn out Ortofon OM10) overly warm, super rich is bass but crucially muted / suffocated in the treble. Nov 22, 2019 · I know the 160 Super is considered by many to be the best of the Thorens tables, aside from the 124, and have read our host's review of the 160 Super repro here. Go. -- Date: 12-08-2010-- Taking it apart completely: -- Recently another TD160C came my way. I recently acquired a Thorens TD 125 Mark II, with the arm, and a Goldring G800 cartridge. I can now mount any cart, whether the cart screws from the bottom or from the top. Feb 3, 2020 #1 Hi all Aug 9, 2010 · Thorens TP-16 MkIV. Looking for a tool to adjust the bearings on my The TP 16 MK IV tone arm has been conceived for use with virtually all commercially available pickup cartridges. friarmac207. II which actually works well. 5 marker (dry elliptical), and won't go any further up the scale. Apr 17, 2007 · Take a good look at the way the cartridge is mounted on the tonearm. Many fit Rega arms to their Thorens tables as a perceived upgrade. AC 16pole synchronous motor, belt drive, 33 and 45 rpm, mechanically switched, platter weight 3. May 29, 2008 · Wilcruiser wrote:The TP16 has a mounting distance of 215. Sep 4, 2022 · Thorens TP16 MKll high compliance MC cartridge choice. 1972: According to analogdept: "At the same time a less expensive TD165 was offered with the TP11 tonearm. Find your replacement or upgrade Thorens parts here, as well as the expert advice to successfully perform the repair, mod, or service. com 12 THORENS TD 1600 with TP 160 Tonearm Specifications Function manual turntable with subchasssis Drive system Belt, sub platter aluminum Motor electronically controlled and stabilized AC synchronous motor Speeds 33-1/3, 45 rpm. At least for the low-mass style of TP16 wand, it requires a cartridge that uses untapped through holes for mounting. tonearm MSRP. 5 gram TP-16 tonearm on a Thorens TD-125 MkII. Thanks to its exclusive design, the Thorens Transcription turntables claim numbers of rumors not matched by any other transmission system. The OP has a TD-160 MKI, not the MKII. If you choose Rega buy the Vinyl Nirvana mounting plate instead, it is much better built out of one solid piece of metal rather than bonded. Jun 18, 2020 · Of my 3 Thorens 'tables, 2 have the light-weight TP-16 arms. 8M subscribers in the vinyl community. RARE HIGH-END BLACK HEADSHELL FOR THORENS TP11 & TP16 TONEARMS TP60 REPLACEMENT. I have a Shelter 201 on my TD145 Mk. Pastic connector in aluminium tube of the arm. Jan 9, 2018 · Re: Guide To Rewiring The Thorens Tp16 - Tp11 Tonearm Post by simonineaston » 30 May 2019 20:45 Anyone who takes the time & trouble to send us photos of their sonic adventures gets my Big Thanks - I've done it a couple of times and know how time-consuming (and sometimes frustrating) it can be. by oztayls. THORENS ISOTRACK TP 16 Mark III tone arm For optimum tracking ability, it is not enough for one tone arm to have a low Thorens TP16 tone arm lift assembly. Once properly set up and with the correct cartridge for it, it sounds fantastic. 5mm) when I first got my TD160/TP16 several years ago. Dec 7, 2015 · Attention! Your ePaper is waiting for publication! By publishing your document, the content will be optimally indexed by Google via AI and sorted into the right category for over 500 million ePaper readers on YUMPU. aramirez626; Sep 24, 2012; Turntables; Replies 5 Views 3K. Thread starter gz00; Start date Mar 12, 2010; gz00 Standard Member. I believe the tonearm is the TP-16 MkIII but it could be a MkII. $99. The packages contains 16 m2 screws as well as 2 nylon washers. It originally had an AKG P8ES SuperNova with VdH IIs needle. Vinyl Nirvana - Vintage AR and Thorens Turntable Sales, Parts, and Restorations Feb 20, 2019 · In '76 Thorens introduced the updated version of the TP-16 and TP-11 tonearms dubbed 'IsoTrack'. Posted February 27th, 2009 . dmgrant1 Member. ie €350 13% Apr 4, 2024 Nov 8, 2021 · I have a TD-145 and a TD-160, both with original TP16 tonearms. Need a new cartridge for my Thorens TD160 with TP16 arm. $85. 4mm overhang and 22deg offset is horrid, even Stevenson is a huge improvement over it and I'm not a fan of Stevenson though to be honest I don't think there's that much of a difference between the different alignments in sound. When it was first released to the public in 1984, the TD 320 was the top of the Thorens 300-series and was also more generally considered to be top-of-its-class. The Thorens turntables TD 127 and TD 226 were derivatives of the TD 126 for long 12“ tone arms (TD 127) and for mounting two tonearms to the right and Nov 7, 2018 · たまたま手に入ったトーレンス TD125MkⅡ． トーンアームはトーレンスTP16の純正組み合わせ。 カートリッジはシュアーV15Ⅲが付いてきた。 トーンアームに多くの問題があり、ランサー77のウーハーを壊してしまった。 出力コードのRCAピンが劣悪だった。 そこらにあるピンコードを切って Apr 28, 2019 · I found that I needed new 2mm cartridge attaching hardware (as opposed to the more universal 2. Jul 26, 2019. I listen to a lot of classic rock and a lot of jazz, a little country, but not much classical. Lin; Apr 13, 2008; Turntables; Replies 5 Views 5K. 5g) and stock TP60 headshell. I also bought the denon DL103 cart that I would like to use. 1s. 99. I do not guarantee they are all there. So thinking of a cost effective (read I am skint) upgrade I can get a used Linn Basik LV X arm at a reasonable price. Jan 1, 2019 · I own a Thorens TD 147 Jubilee fitted with a TP 16 mk ii arm. Getting the nasty mistracking noise to balance between the two channels, the Oct 4, 2017 · Thorens TP-63 Overhang Alignment Gauge for the Thorens TP-63 arm and TP16 Isotrack tonearm. Lin. You can hear it on low level music passages. I vaguely remember reading something either on an old AK or Vinylengine thread saying not to use a Stevenson protractor w/TP 16 equipped Thorens tables, but they The Thorens' Isotrack TP16 MKIII straight tonearm has always been considered subordinate to the SME's. Thorens TP16 owners manual, service manuals and schematics are for reference only and the Vinyl Engine bears no responsibility for errors or other inaccuracies. I noticed that the tonearm did not move freely in the lateral plane (but very free up and down), so I popped off the round bearing dust cap and began adjusting the bearing screw (the large slotted brass screw at the top of the tonearm base that houses the lateral Nov 22, 2012 · I just thought I would share with everyone a simple modification which I did to the TP60 head-shell of the TP16 Thorens tonearm. Sep 11, 2013. 5g. Feb 27, 2009 · Thorens TP11 MKI or TP16 MKI Rewiring. It possesses a classic wooden plinth, a two-part machined aluminum platter with an internally run ground drive belt. THORENS ISOTRACK TP 16 Mark III tone arm For optimum in tracking ability it is not sufficient that a tone arm has low bearing friction. I ended up purchasing a VAS Ebony 103 moving coil cartridge. How to renovate the tonearm with new cartridge wires. 2. Jan 24, 2013 · Hi all, I have been having a very difficult time in getting my Stanton 681eee cartridge to play without buzzing through the second and third antiskating bands on side one of the HiFi News Test Record when mounted on my Thorens TD-145 turntable with TP16 Mk1 tonearm. jpg. Jan 24, 2024 · I have a Thorens TD-160 turntable with the stock TP-16 tonearm. 5 grams!! Dec 30, 2019 · I use a TD-160 (built from parts, fun!) with MK1 (16. I picked up one a few years ago. Oct 6, 2020 · I think that I can probably sell TP16 for $150-$200. I also have a Nagaoka MP-200. Used – Very Good. by Dimitris Lamprou. Nov 2, 2018 #1 The thin nylon on the vtf wheel is broken on my tonearm May 16, 2011 · I'm thinking about buying a Nagaoka MP-11 or possibly the newer MP-110. The ultra-lightweight head shell is rigid and allows for complete adjustment of whatever cartridge you use. I am struggling with the anti-skate settings, and feel there may be a problem with the mechanism. 2 kg (with subplatter), platter and armbase suspended by three springs, manual operation Jan 22, 2020 · In my opinion, the TP-16 is one of the most under-rated arms out there and (for whatever reason) doesn't get half the love and respect it deserves. I'm interested in changing the tonearm on one of them but cannot spend more than $500-600 on the change. However, in my opinion, the TP 16 MKIII arm is very underrated, and others (like the SME's and RB 200/300) are overrated and hyped. Review Thorens Parts for TD-160, TD-145, TD-125, TD-147, TD-165, TD-166 turntables. Below from the TD 320 user manual on vinylengine, which uses the TP 16 MkIII Davey, Jan 16, 2022 #6. Making the aluminium tube loose from the cardanic shaft of the tone arm. Hum doesn't really interfere with the music. Aug 28, 2021 · I've never had an MC cart before and I really want to install one on my Thorens TD-160 with original TP16 arm (16. Rumble -68dB. The TD 147 was a 1-step belt-drive turntable manufactured by the Thorens Corporation. 64 g heavier than AT-440 and a better match for TP16. Jan 29, 2013 · I just dug my TD-147 with the TP 16 MK III tonearm out of the closet after a recent move and started the process of tuning it up. One of the tables it might end up on is a Thorens TD-125 Mk2 with a stock TP-16 arm. But when I install the cart it is to close to the record surface. I hope to start growing my modern rock collection. But maybe I overlooked things, there are in this forum more knowledgable people that maybe know far better methods. Tradition meets modernity - THORENS TD 1500. Mar 11, 2019 · I am trying to give the best shot to a Thorens TP16 thonearm. ctuded with this instruction manual behind it (Fig. I used a blank record to set the anti-skate. Music4doc Well-Known Member Thread Starter. His tone arm is the TP-16 MKI, (not the MKII,) with the TP-60 head-shell. Speed select electronical Platter 12“ / 4,2 kg (aluminum) Tonearm Thorens TP 160 knife edge bearing Feb 3, 2020 · Thorens TP-16 tone arm pivot bearing adjustment help needed. Shipping to states in latitude of Colorado or farther west will be a little more, billed separately The official Thorens® website: Turntables, Electronic, Accessories. 1 of 2 Go to page. It's a great time to upgrade your home theater system with the largest selection at eBay. Here you can download user manuals, brochures, technical specifications as well as reviews on current Thorens ® products. Apr 3, 2019 · I have the Thorens TD-147 also. ※こちらの動画は動作確認用になります。thorens td320 + tp16（中古・6か月保証品）が入荷しました。本体は電源部を中心に劣化部品の交換・計測 Feb 3, 2020 · For me as Thorens-newbie I found it was remarkable easy. The motor technology uses 16-pole two-phase synchronous design with slip-clutch for instantaneous start. In 1965, the Thorens TD 150, an inconspicuous little turntable, came on the market and thus started a technical revolution in record player manufacturing. Aug 28, 2021 · Again, I have a Thorens TD-160 with TP16 MK1 tonearm. com. Fast & Free shipping on many items! Sep 26, 2023 · A great turntable just got that much better. Jan 18, 2021 · The AT-VM 95 cartridges will not mount on the stock Thorens TD 160 tonearm, because the screw size is different, and the Thorens headshell the cartridge is mounted from the bottom. The standard cabinetry surround was replaced with a larger, more solid one and the plastic dustcover hinges were replaced with metal ones and the top trim facia received a slightly Jan 12, 2020 · I used a Baerwald protractor, as well as a Thorens arc protractor (designed specifically for the TP16/TP60) for comparison, and the alignment seems to check out fairly well using both. The added weight I think makes it a better fit for the TP16 than the stock 103. The Thorens TD-160’s TP-16 tonearm allows for a dynamical VTF setting. Not uber high level gear, but the Thorens + MP-200 provides the best sound I've had. Thread starter Paul-H; Start date Feb 3, 2020; P. Location: Virginia. I didn't use the turntable for about 30 years and am now reviving it. I would like to do a cartridge alignment and went on vinylengine. p. Unfortunately, none of my Thorens TD-16X variants with the TP-16 Mk-I tonearm ever exhibited consistent AS settings that were portable enough to use one with the other. Instead of the proven Thorens TP 16 Mk III, various third-party arms (SME, Koshin, Dynavector) could be delivered directly from the factory, whereby the automatic functions were most retained. Mr. 9 posts • Page 1 of 1. com to get the protractor but according to the website, you need to log in to download the protractors and apparently they are not permitting any new members at this time. Great deals on Thorens Record Tonearms Parts. I can't get the Baerwald protractors to work with most cartridges since the headshell won't let them move enough. Browse all Hardware Ads; Jun 4, 2009 · Thorens TP16 tonearm bearing adjustment. Jan 22, 2022 · I hope everyone is doing great and had a good start into 2022! I have a Thorens TD320 with TP16 MKIII tonearm. The whole tone-arm as an effective mass of 17. The complete arm is lifted from the base plate after releasing the two Allen screws. Thread starter Hebridean; Start date Nov 2, 2018; Hebridean Active Member. We're in the process of uploading more parts, please check back frequently. The dial will only move the pointer from zero to just past the 0. I am confused and curious about a few things: 1. I purchased a Thorens hardware kit (IIRC from Switzerland) on E-bay that along with the correct screws, nuts, and washers also included a Thorens cartridge spacer. 4mm specified for the TP16 family. thorens. The entry level MP-110 is a nice cartridge for the money. I don't know anything about anything but this doesn't seem right. THE HISTORY OF THORENS Thorens is the oldest name in entertainment electronics, founded in 1883 by Hermann Thorens in Sainte-Croix, Switzerland. Share: Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr Mar 3, 2009 · I've got a couple of Thorens tables that use the TP 16 tonearm and the TP 60 headshell. Mar 12, 2010 #1 Help I'm having trouble getting my TP 16 MkII/TP62 Apr 6, 2022 · It measures 215 mm however just as the TP16 and TP 11 do, however their overhang is specified at 18mm in the manual rather than the 14. Cartridge Ortofon Red. Paul-H Active Member. 5-2 gram range. The original TP60 configuration only allowed screwing the cart from the bottom, and with specific types of bolts, metric configuration. 6") The TP 90 L is 272. The headshell it is compatible with, is depicted. The turntable and tone arm are mounted on a secondary chassis that carries the motor. Oct 16, 2021 · My Thorens TD-125 with TP-16 arm has an intermittent problem with the headshell to arm connection. AT-440 sounds congested with TP16. Oct 4, 2009 · Used info on this link http://www. Pioneer PL-640 Turntable Headshell w/ Wires. From what I've read, the TP-16 arm has a mass of 16. AT-150 sounds more open and there is more bass. robustini Active Member. Jul 24, 2011 · Dave has refurbished turntables for sale as well as helpful links to much Thorens info. I am looking for a better option for my TD147 Jubilee, also with the TP16. Feb 27, 2022 · Thorens TD 160 TP-16 cartridge suggestion Post by Moustacher » 27 Feb 2022 12:05 I recently bought a TD 160 that came with a goldring g800 cartridge. Jan 13, 2013 · I don't understand why Thorens made the arm so high back at the bearing end, thus affording us no chance to get the arm parallel with anything but a hugely tall cartridge body. I could buy a new RB-220 or RB-330 in that price range but am unsure how much better they are than the TP16. The HFN analog test LP and its 4 biasing tracks is what I use. At the time of production heavier tonearms were common, but later low mass (low compliance) tonearms became more popular and cartridge manufacturers focused on producing Jan 13, 2013 · The original Thorens shim sets are quite hard to find but they do show up on Ebay once a year or so. 8 KB · Views: 183 D. This includes the following Thorens models; Thorens TD 145, Thorens TD 160 Thorens TD 165 and Thorens TD 166. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items! Tonearm Thorens TP-16. Despite being released over four decades ago, the Thorens TD-160 MK II remains a popular choice among audiophiles and music lovers today. Aug 10, 2024 · Thorens TP 16 and TP 11 mk-I tonearm rest for TD 160, TD165, TD 165 and TD 145 mk-I models Art of Vinyl €20 May 27, 2021 Reverb Thorens TP16 tone arm lift assembly $85 Feb 4, 2021 Classifieds: FOR SALE - Thorens TP16 Tonearm from TD160 MK1 asking for $150. Jan 17, 2014 · I have a Thorens TD-160 with a TP-16 tonearm. The article states that Diversified Science Laboratories measured the effective mass of the TP-16 MkIII to be ~18. Nov 2, 2018 · Thorens tp16 vtf. As today's cartridges are medium mass, and track in the 1. The "mkIV" denotes the fourth generation of this particular model, which was introduced in 2017. Mar 5, 2013 · So I've been loving my recently-acquired Thorens and feel I have the suspension dialed in well. Feb 6, 2020 · My turntable is Thorens TD-160 Mk1 with TP-16 tone arm, the turntable is generally well regarded, the tonearm not so. Also was using a Grado Gold3. 00 shipping. Register; Login; Place an Ad Free for hobbyists! Hardware . pdf My TP 16 mk 1 had the two holes on the top bearing thread screw. Some arms the Jelco they use Linn mount do a google search. Correct tonearm setup improves your vinyl and turntable experience - improve sound quality, stylus wear and cartridge May 22, 2009 · Thorens TD 160 with a TP-16 Mk I tonearm. Does 16. Since my cartidge is a Nagaoka (MM / MI) it also needs an increase in effective mass (Isotrack TP16 is only 7. (9. And I don't have a printer right now to print one out. I have a Thorens TD-160 and have a Grado Opus3 mounted on a Jelco tonearm. 5gm, again well suited for lots of medium compliance MM and MC cartridges. The higher end series of VM cartridges from Audio-Technica, the AT-VM 500 and 700 series do mount on this arm, and are good matches for that tonearm. The TD 1600, featuring the new TP 160 tonearm, represents a consistent evolution of the TD 1600. TellMeWhy; Feb 26, 2017; Turntables; Replies 3 Views 1K. Fully We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. It has the Thorens Isotrack TP16 Mark III tonearm, which is 230 mm in length, consisting of cartridge wand TP-63. When I bought it (used), it came with a Shure M97xE cartridge which I enjoyed for awhile (mostly with the brush in the down position). Mar 24, 2023 · This review is of the Thorens TD 1600 model. The Thorens TP13 arm looks simplistic, and or course it is, but that's a virtue, not an impediment to performance at all. THE NEW TD 1600 WITH IMPROVED TONEARM TP 160. I've gone through all the math around this, but now I need to hear from folks who are ACTUALLY running an MC cart on the same setup as mine (or have in the past), or at least heard such a setup. Will the suspension of the MP-11 be robust enough to handle this medium mass Tonearm Thorens TP-16. gadget73. For optimum in tracking ability it is not sufficient that a tonearm has low bearing friction. Both had 'wands', first the TP-62 then the TP-63 but the TP-16 kept it's magnetic anti-skate and dynamic balancing while the TP-11 kept the weight on string and general flimsiness it always possessed. The official mass is 16. It began as a maker of musical boxes and related equipment, then manufactured its first Edison type phonograph in 1903, before concentrating on horn gramophones for the new shellac records. 6 so you can use this one meant for Thorens tonearms of that length Good point, that is another option; but remember that the Thorens Arc protractor is a Baerwald type so there may not be enough adjustment in the headshell to suit all cartridges. I wander if upgrade to SME III S worth $350. Also a Grado Gold 1 cartridge (no hum problems). I feel with Regas on thorens it must be modified to work well on the thorens Jun 27, 2019 · Tonearm Setup 1 by Electric Warrior. $20. The Thorens is my first nice turntable. All variants are simple and well-designed, offering a very high level of performance straight out of the box. Aug 25, 2018 · My Thorens TP-16 tone arm rattles around pretty loosely in its bearing. Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Music4doc, Feb 4, 2023. 12). The AKG needle broke so I am on the market for a good replacement. Aug 9, 2010 #4 If you scrounge around vinyl engine, there is a post there from a guy who says that The plastic TD160 arm board was replaced with a high density version and left blank to incorporate many different tone arms apart from the standard Thorens TP16. AT-440 cartridge is too light for TP16 and doesn't sound nearly as good as AT-150 cartridge with AT440Mlb stylus. All you need is a rectangle with two holes drilled in 1/4" apart. Just spent a few minutes adjusting the anti-skate using the Sound Canada Audio System Test Record and a pair of headphones. I purchased it on evilbay as a tested, working unit but I cannot confirm that. 5 grams. The deck was introduced in 1972 as a successor for the excellently built but ageing TD 150; like with other Thorens at the time, it was available with or without a Thorens TP-16 tonearm; in the UK, the vast majority of buyers chose the considerably superior SME 3009S2 – and later a SME Series III. Vintage AR and Thorens Turntable Sales, Parts, and Restorations. Thorens Headshell Screw Kit For TP-11 And TP-16 Mk1 Models. Once the tonearm is set to zero VTF by moving the counterweight back and forth until the arm is horizontal, you can move the indicator to the desired value: a spring system will load the cartridge correctly. Later in 1982 Thorens introduced the TD-160 Super which was similar to the MK II but had a few improvements such as a heavier cabinet, more dampening, a heavier bottom plate and better dust Used Thorens TP-60 headshell in excellent condition. Jul 16, 2015 · The Rega arm is a very good upgrade, but the TP 16 Mk IV is itself a good arm in good operational order. use appropriate P. Speakers are Spendor BC1. So here's the dilemma. The ever-venerable Thorens TD 1601 turntable now features the company’s new TP 160 tonearm, which was developed by the always innovative designer Helmut Thiele. Apr 13, 2008. I suspect one or two of the small female pins inside the arm are bad. Price Drop. Early models came Instead of the proven Thorens TP 16 Mk III, various third-party arms (SME, Koshin, Dynavector) could be delivered directly from the factory, whereby the automatic functions were most retained. It's essentially a DL-103 with the same compliance, but it's much heavier due the wood body, really enhancing the low end. 00. For equipment, setup, or troubleshooting questions, please ask in our… Mar 12, 2010 · Thorens TP16 Height adjustment. Thorens TP-16 Anti-Skate Help The TP-16 is a far better tonearm than some people think. ) Feb 4, 2023 · Cartridge for Thorens TP16 MK iii. Jun 12, 2016 · Wrapping the vertical shaft in cloth and use a small vise is exactly what I had to resort to with numerous TP-16 and TP-11 tonearms. tgft oos qwam eet bpbsos wclr yvzeq qraw pjtc xsdp